So, after we had a very nice meal of grilled lemon salmon fillets, we felt sleepy – as usual after a sea food meal- so we relaxed watching cartoon then turned it off and both kids offered to pamper me with a very lame feet massage hehe (tiny hands Vs. big feet).
So, Hassan(8 ) began a conversation by asking a very innocent straight question about how couples “agree” to get married.
It wasn’t the first time my kids discuss their thoughts about those difficult to handle issues with me…they are always free to ask and i always respond as honest as i can while maintaining the child friendly picture and vocabulary!
He then asked, what if one refused, and do they need permission to remarry…i answered simply as we laughed some words they couldn’t pronounce correctly and silly thoughts…then Jumana (6) asked: how do couples know they want to get married, I answered: well, they feel they can make a good family and they are nice together and like each other so they know. she asked again: OK, who asks first, and i found myself automatically answering that the man asks first and quickly she asked: why?? why not the woman?? the Hassan asked the same and i said: well, she could but normally the man asks…they both exclaimed: why wouldn’t she normally ask him. they both paused, looking at me waiting for an answer…
Well, I explained that it’s something people agreed on “somehow” and became the norm.
They weren’t convinced why would people agree “somehow” on that…yet theychanged the subject and kept asking me how come i am not pregnant and getting them a baby to play with, so, i explained that i have to have a husband first and i thank god they have not asked WHY…Jumana remembered that i had her in my tummy and delivered her so she asked: mama, have you opened your tummy?? i said yes, to get you out to life…she asked: by yourself?? so i explained non graphically about the c- section.
Now, kids questions raise important points…
What puzzles me is: If most customs people “somehow” agree to make them the norm and generation after generation those norms get more deeply rooted to the extent that people can fight battles and kill lives to defend them, If most customs are man made…centuries ago…centuries ago some man or woman sat one night and decided that their way of thinking is right, applied it on their sons and so on and so on…so, a private thought that served a private matter and a man/ woman best interest developed to be a norm for a society or several!!
While other norms were configured by men or women that had the power to apply their thoughts on masses of people…
I just remembered when the Egyptian family laws were changed because Jihan alsadat cousin wanted divorce…before that happened, the famous movie ” oredo 7alan” was the way egyptians dealt with women asking for divorce, but Jihan made it a tad easier, not that she needed to change laws ;)
Anyways, now, someone loooooooong ago made the rule – for an example – for men to propose and women to get all blushed and whisper yes while looking down to the floor.
In Islam, for an example of religions, and that was LOOOOONGER ago, ladies asked to marry men they liked and in a very elegant way and vice a versa.
So, Norms don’t have to be attached to religion to gain importance and validity…actually most of them have nothing to do with religions. yet they gain same level as laws sometimes.
Question is: are you willing to let a norm made by someone long ago to serve his own interest, RULE YOUR LIFE??
My answer is: If it defies what I believe or want, my answer is NO.
and this is no 3antary response…What i believe is my private book of rules that I choose for my life…what i want is what i choose to use to live with, it maybe man made, a custom, a religion or such norm.
It may not be that simple but really really, it should!
On a last note, if that was how a norm would start, we should watch out to keep our private set of rules…private??!!!

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June 20, 2009 at 1:03 pm
Mohamed ElGohary
And even with this Male first rule, the female here usually developed an indirect way when she likes a male. It is nearly impossible to completely block human desires I think, though life would be hell better if logically right things became easy.
Life here in Egypt is being westernized, with the people’s consent or not, so I think the power of traditions, even religion, is becoming lesser each day in front of the power of human desires, making things like female choosing male look more acceptable now than the recent past.
Anyway, Allah bless your wonderful kids, ye7meehom we yekhalihomlek inshaAllah
June 20, 2009 at 2:36 pm
jessyz
Masha2allah very smart and interesting kids, rabena ye5alihomlek. They do ask the most interesting questions, don’t they. I think as long as something is not 7arram then the social norms don’t matter.
June 20, 2009 at 7:27 pm
Mus3ab
I think marriage is a contract, as long as this contract within the bounderies that Islam has defined, we are free of what terms we choose, even if it contradicts the “Norm”.
Marriage is one of the things that has suffered from the “Norm” the most. It’s about time to break the said Norms as long as we adhere to our religion.
My life for example is complicated because of said “Norms” otherwise I would marry the one I wanted to marry, without worries.
It takes kids to open such an important subject, because their inocense and curiousity is not hindering their ability of straight forward critical thinking.
I bet you if you give them the set of bounderies taht the religion sets, they will come out with answers to many difficult questions that we adults shy away from
June 21, 2009 at 9:33 am
Fadi K
Hi ..
I think it’s a turned table thing these days ,,, ladies they flag a target , do their thing and there you go , the target automatically proposes.. This happens a lot Rasha here in Jordan : )
Allah yessahel 3aleih James Brown when he said : It’s a man’s world …. Man created money , to buy from another man ….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=af-3Q0L5cMw
Next time I get to Cairo I will meet the kids … OK ?
June 21, 2009 at 1:06 pm
Rasha*
Good point goog, still…something pulls us back to traditions as we grow older…maybe the mind sets of parents…the battle between a rebel and the whole society…i don’t know but the spirit fades and we sort of give up on the new trend we were once sooo in to.
whoever maintains what he sees right regardless everything da yeb2a 7ad gamed no doubt !
Thanks Jessyz
they are a gift from allah.
It is so simple and clear as you have stated, i believe the same, as long as it’s not 7aram it should be simple to apply…people complicate life 3ala nafsohom.
June 21, 2009 at 1:10 pm
Rasha*
Mus3ab,
Again, very true…it amazes me how many agree that freedom within our own chosen bounderies has to be simple…it amazes me also that i may find it easy to apply it on one thing and struggle to even discuss the other.
Kids are amazing as they are not exposed to social contamination yet…inshallah abadan.
will experiment that and let u know
June 21, 2009 at 1:15 pm
Rasha*
My dear fadi daddy of the sweetest girl ever

The breath of fresh air
Next time you’re in cairo i pomise you’re gonna see kids and more beautiful places too.
Much regards to the Mrs. and kisses to 7ala
la2 sedo, allah yessahel l Donna summer the queen of disco, belzamanaaaaat alet: she works hard for the money…so u better treat her right